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lifting the secrecy In a rare admission of the effectiveness of drone strikes, a senior Pakistani military officer has said most of those killed are hard core militants, including foreigners, according to Dawn newspaper.

It quotesMajor General Ghayur Mehmoodas telling reporters at a briefing in Miramshah, in North Waziristan, that,"Myths and rumours about US predator strikes and the casualty figures are many, but it's a reality that many of those being killed in these strikes are hardcore elements, a sizeable number of them foreigners. there are a few civilian casualties in such precision strikes, but a majority of those eliminated are terrorists, including foreign terrorist elements," he said. Abbas called them a"personal assessment". Abbas emphasised that the army supported the public policy of the government that drone strikes inside Pakistani territory more harm than good the newspaper said. And nor were they an unqualified endorsement of the attacks in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. According to Dawn, Ghayur, who is in charge of troops in North Waziristan, admitted that the drone attacks had negative fallout, scaring the local population and causing their migration to other places. Gen Ghayur said the drone attacks also had social and political repercussions and law enforcement agencies often felt the heat. it is unlikely that such a high rankingofficer would have made such comments if they did not reflect the thinking of the army leadership. The big question now is on whether they have liftedthe lid onwhat has become a truly poisonous debate within Pakistan on drone attacks. It has long been an open secret that the drone attacks are carried out with the tacit endorsement of the Pakistani military, withPakistani intelligence helping to do louis vuitton bags have zippers inside identify targets on theground. intentions in Pakistan. The debate about drone attacks, both in thewest and in Pakistan, has always been about two quite different issues although these are rarely distinguished. The New America Foundation has set up a database on drone attacksbased on press accounts, and estimates civilian casualties at approximately 21 percent since 2004, but dropping tosix percentin 2010. In January last year, Pakistani academic Farhat Taj argued that people in the tribal areas actually welcomed the drone attacks. "The people of Waziristan are suffering a brutal kind of occupation under the Taliban and al Qaeda. It is in this context that they would welcome anyone, Americans, Israelis, Indians or even the devil, to rid them of $900 neverfull louis vuitton tote bags the Taliban and al Qaeda. Therefore, they welcome the drone attacks," she wrote in the Daily Times. "Secondly, the people feel comfortable with the drones because of their precision and targeted strikes. People usually appreciate drone attacks when they compare it with the Pakistan Army's attacks, which always result in collateral damage. Especially the people of Waziristan have been terrified by the use of long range artillery and air strikes of the Pakistan Army and Air Force." According to a 2009 study by the Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy (AIRRA), of which Farhat Taj is a member, and quoted by The Express Tribune, a narrow majority (52 percent) believed drone attacks were accurate; a larger majority (58 percent) believed they did not increase anti American feelings in the tribal areas; while 60 percent believedmilitant organisations were damaged bythe strikes. Anecdotal evidence also backs up the New America Foundation assessment that the proportion of civilian casualties has declined since drone strikes began, dueto improved intelligence gathering and coordination between the CIAand Pakistan Intelligence (ISI) agency. Within this first part of the debate on the effectiveness of drones, there are counter arguments among themthat they are only a short term expedient which can be no substitute for the long term need foreffective governance and economic development in the tribal areas. But it ispossible to remain rational. It is in the second part of the debate about whether strategically they make sense that the issues become much more complex. If the majority of people in Pakistan outside the tribal areas believe that drone strikes cause disproportionately large numbers of civilian casualties then every attack fuels anti Americanism which in turn produces more support for militant groups. That inturnfurther weakensPakistan fragile democracy by giving the impression civilian rulers are unable, or unwilling, to stand up to the United States. The covert nature of the drone programme also encourages conspiracy theories about what exactly the Americans are up to in Pakistan, as highlighted by the row over the Raymond Davis,the CIA contractor who shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore. The full details of what he was doing in Pakistan remain murky (Christine Fair writes that he may have been providing security for a CIA cell tracking the Lashkar e Taiba militant group.) But that did not stop the media from going to town on everything from Davis alleged addiction tonaswar, or chewing tobacco, to his purported enthusiasm for Ludo, to what, each time there is a row,invariably ends up at aCIA/Mossad/R plot to seize Pakistan nuclear weapons. In other words, the anger caused by drone attacks encourages everything the United States says it wants toprevent distrust of America,cynicism about the effectiveness of a democratically elected government, and a widespread belief that Washington rather thanal Qaeda and its cohorts is the enemy. Within Pakistan which bears thebrunt of Islamist militancy it fuels a poisonous debate which pits one group against another with often violent consequences. Arguably, Pakistan is not going to escape that morass until its people are allowed to have a properly informed, mature debate not just about the effectiveness of drone attacks butabout how they want to shape the future of the tribal areas. louis vuitton speedy 35 or neverfull Lifting the secrecy on drones would be a start. Drone attacks should be extended into Quetta where Mullah Omar and his concubines are parked. It must also be extended into South Punjab where Madrasas are breeding Ajmal Kasabs. In addition, LeT, JuD,head quarters and ISI S wing etc should be demolished with drones. This way, the bad guys will be eliminated once in for all. If they could send the drones to Mumbai and knock out Shiv Sena head quarters, it would be much appreciated as well. Would Pakistan be interested in exchanging Advani, Bal Thackery, his son and son in law in exchange for Dawood Ibrahim? Sorry for the distraction. Posted by KPSingh01 Report as abusive Drones are the most effective way to deal with the current situation in the tribal areas. The solution to the tribal areas which house all the terror camps is boots on the ground, and an offensive of hold, clear, and build. However, the case of US boots will never happen and I don see Pak Military going there in full force in the foreseeable future. In terms of weakening of the civilian government in Pakistan, the blame has to be shared with Pakistan military. Their reluctance to not say anything is horrible. They leave the civilians to hold the bag, but on top of it, the civilians themselves start to play their own double game. The civilians see the political capital that is present when you criticize the West, and they are more than happy to make use of it. This is the environment which the West has to function in. Therefore, drones make logical sense and allow the mission in Afghanistan to move forward by keeping the cancers in the tribal areas below louis vuitton bracelet sale a a certain point. Posted by rainydays Report as abusive The world attention has diminished towards Pakistan. There are a lot of new high priority items that need international attention the revolution spreading in the Middle East, Libyan civil war and now the earth quake disaster in Japan. Pakistan can breathe easy. However, it is up to the Pakistani military and its sundry non state actor divisions to think of the future and the consequences of their decisions. There is a golden opportunity to lay down all the arms and start on a fresh note. Instead if they decide to capitalize on lack of world attention to regroup and stage attacks, it will bear long term consequences that will be undesirable for them. In 1988, world attention diminished against Pakistan after the Soviet defeat. There was plenty of opportunity to plan for progress and peace at that time. But the military warped heads decided to launch the next Jihad against India. It has brought the US to the door and Pakistan is bearing the consequences of the decisions made at that time. Therefore it is important for Pakistan not to commit the same mistake again or commit new ones. It is time for Pakistan to abandon muscling methods and work sincerely towards peace and progress. Let us see if they realize this and do the right thing. Posted by KPSingh01 Report as abusive Shahidkhan: shaking in my boots, Sir. When are you coming to collect the arms? Are you going to assign a new caste below untouchables? can surrender if you want. But that was not my point. I was talking about giving up reliance on Jihad based terrorism as a means to try controlling the region. It did not work. Instead of focusing on building the nation, your military tried to destroy its neighbor by using proxy wars. All the energy was spent on supporting Jihad to such an extent that there is nothing left but Mumtaz Qadris and Ajmal Kasabs. It is a result of poor choice in 1989. Since there is nothing else left in your wonderful country other than a military, I am trying to see if there is any hope for a new choice that gives up the old beliefs. This is because this old belief has brought your country to where it is and brought a war right at your border. Militants are blowing people up.

This was something your military and countrymen planned for India. But your thick skull did not get the message. You have taken off tangentially as usual.


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